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Posted - 10/30/2006 :  02:26:10 AM  Show Profile
About every 2 months I get a msg like the one just received that is pasted below. AFAIK, I'm not doing anything to cause them, is this anything to worry about? BTW, is there a more direct way to access the archive?

<Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
esltalk@flyesl.org mailing list.

I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
at esltalk-owner@flyesl.org.

Messages to you from the esltalk mailing list seem to
have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
message I received.

If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces,
I will remove your address from the esltalk mailing list,
without further notice.

I've kept a list of which messages from the esltalk mailing list have
bounced from your address.

Copies of these messages may be in the archive.

To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
send an empty message to:

To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
send an empty message to:

Here are the message numbers:


--- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.

Return-Path: <>
Received: (qmail 9357 invoked for bounce); 4 Oct 2006 02:18:36 -0000
Date: 4 Oct 2006 02:18:36 -0000
From: MAILER-DAEMON@bouncehost
To: esltalk-return-255-@flyesl.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1159838252bouncehost2737168"
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at bouncehost.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<raschow@aol.com>: failed after I sent the message.
Remote host said: 421-: (DYN:T1) http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/421dynt1.html
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long>

Good Lift!


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Posted - 10/30/2006 :  12:55:58 PM  Show Profile
Unfortunately for mail lists, AOL has gotten very strict in their spam filtering. Some changes can be made on the mail list server to reduce this impact, but that particular error says that AOL has received too many messages or too many user complaints about messages from the mail server's IP address. The server administrator might be able to participate in their feedback loop to ease the problem. I would suggest using a free webmail account (like Yahoo, Google, Hotmail, etc.) to subscribe to the list.

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Posted - 10/31/2006 :  2:09:12 PM  Show Profile
Plenty of spam gets thru anyway! So, ESL service provider also has unsavory customers? FWIW, I got no reponse when I requested service on msg 255 that allegedly bounced - was it anything important? Good Lift!

Good Lift!
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Posted - 10/31/2006 :  6:41:45 PM  Show Profile
Doesn't necessarily mean unsavory customers. Could simply mean that server sent what AOL considers to be "too many" messages to AOL addresses. This can happen with a lot of traffic on mail lists with a lot of AOL subscribers. I don't see any identification numbers in the messages I've received. How do you determine which one is message 255 (other than getting a copy from ezmlm)?

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Posted - 10/31/2006 :  10:44:46 PM  Show Profile
Here is message 255;

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Steifel [mailto:jsteifel@ptd.net]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:27 PM
Subject: ESL end of Season contest at Daniel Boone Reading PA

Its the ESL end of season contest.
This weekend at the Daniel Boone field in Reading PA.
For registration see http://www.flyesl.com/

And remember we have a Thermal Clinic with Tom Kiesling.
Bring your questions. Tom will be taking questions.

Jeff Steifel
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Posted - 06/04/2013 :  04:23:41 AM  Show Profile
Thank you so much! I will print it out to know what you mean.

I'd rather be a happy fool than a sad sage.
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Posted - 08/02/2013 :  04:58:47 AM  Show Profile
So good! i like it... thanks for your sharing!

d3geeks is the best!
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